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[READ ME] Proper Harm Reduction & Misinformation

Altered perceptionists, dextronauts, psychedelic delvers and drug lovers alike, good day. Today, I need to call the attention of all of you and any newbie alike, this is a rather serious topic pertaining to harm reduction and the misinformation about it that gets spread around here, and how our moderation of this place will be slightly changing as a result of that.

I need you all to understand that this is a seriously available substance. One that beyond the common ones, such as alcohol, nicotine and cannabis, that teenagers or young adults often find being the first REAL drug they have access to. As such, there's a whole lot of impressionable, understudied youth that is apart of our community. No shade to any of you youngins, live life and do it to the best of your ability, I was once you. And that's why I'm writing this post, because I suffered life damaging consequences as a result of dxm abuse that stemmed from being misinformed about it's safety as a young individual.

There's a lot of people that claim dxm is safe to take daily or multiple times a week here. This is simply not true, and drug addiction generally exists because it will be FINE in the beginning, you will not see the consequences until you're so deep into it that stopping use is genuinely a challenge and may require outside assistance.

This WILL happen with this drug after long enough of being ignorant and abusing it. It is such a powerful ligand/substance, it interacts with 18 different receptor systems, 2 of them being serotonin and norepinephrine, two neurochemical systems highly implicated in daily mood, well-being, focus, and energy. It will reduce your working memory and short term storage of memories, as a result of NMDA receptor upregulation after constantly or frequently antagonizing them. This will also decrease your capacity to learn for a period of time, or perhaps years depending on seriously you abused, because NMDA tolerance does NOT go down quickly. Not to mention this drug has a very variable halflife due to all of its metabolites and complicated metabolism, ranging from 3-8 hours to potentially 17-24 depending on your physiology. Meaning, some people may get away with it for longer, while others will see the negative neurological effects such as mania, emotional volatility/apathy, constant frustration, reclusiveness, extreme forgetfulness and dead motivation much sooner than others.

I have experienced each of these effects and have lost jobs, family connections, and a lot of valuable friends in my life due to how DXM deceived and deluded me into thinking it was safe and helping me. Misinformation within the community played a major part in that. I know there's a ton of other people out there like me who rode the saddle until the wheels fell off, and if you've read this and have such a story, please share your experience below! We need to all come together and do our part and best as a community to prevent the abuse of DXM and misinformation on it, it could end up seriously harming someone in ways they never foresaw.

Another thing I've noticed from my multiple year experience and self and social study is that there are certain personalities and people (like me!) who maybe are going / have gone through a ton of shit and trauma, that are much more liable to addiction and frequent unsafe use due to their environment or state of mind. One unsafe recommendation on your part could turn into 10 others on the other person's part if they're liable to drug use or addiction, through any number of factors. I've been there and I really get it. My life is changed and went on a completely different path than what was initially possible before I met this drug. If you're using this drug often, please be careful and do your best to find behavioral or safer drug replacements

If you're skeptical or don't believe me, here's a few very common resources that'll tell you the neurochemical and pharmacokinetic facts I spoke of in this post, I heavily advise you to do your own research, process the neurochemistry, understand it and delve further into the other linked resources within these pages to put the puzzle together yourself. Or just ask CHATgpt for a summary and some sources on the key points of this post. I'll also do my best to answer any question or curiosity about the drug, addiction to it, or the subreddit changes. Let me know!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextromethorphan (Wikipedia)

https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Dextromethorphan (Psychonaut Wiki)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml&ved=2ahUKEwiSgsLPoqaMAxVHrokEHSGKCEkQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1HSx5oMRS7gsbT2XOwloUp (DXM Bible)

How we will change moderation & rules:

Starting today, after creating and pinning this post, if you comment, post or endorse using DXM ANY more frequently than the week per plateau rule, you will first receive a warning, which will then turn into suspension or ban with repeat offenses.

And as such, the people who are experienced with this drug over a long period of time and know where I'm coming from, report any comment or post that does so! It would make it a lot easier for us, we appreciate all of you and hope to see everyone safely enjoying the dextroverse. It's not worth the cost of your well-being and happiness/status in life.

Tl;Dr:

DXM abuse/overuse can potentially have severe consequences, it is a super available drug and there is usually 0 problems obtaining it WHENEVER, and being so available; young and freshly drug enlightened people are often using it and found on this online community. Everyone is different and new users may not know any better. Week per plateau is the best recommendation for frequent use, and any more frequent use recommendations will result in warnings and suspension later if continued.

Remember harm reduction and encourage others to grow and improve in life, not escape it everyday and potentially harm themselves, their family, or their life progress as a result.

I feel bad now

My mom used narcan on me when I was on amanita mascuria and dxm and she couldn't wake me up and didn't know what I tookšŸ˜­

Was I about to..?

I feel really fkin stupid, I shouldn't have done anything that I did and deeply regret it, and I don't recommend you do it either. I was looking for a cheap high and saw about DXM. Ive been in a very dark time lately with family trauma reveals and all.

For background info, Im a chronic illness sufferer, I have multiples. Im on multiple meds (you see what Im going for here..)

Well, Yesterday I took 40ml, + another 40ml of Robitussin (so 240mg ish), But spread out over hours, like one 40ml at 4pm, the other at 8pm.

I didn't get hit with the high until 10pm, and Boooyyyyy did it hit. But at some point I started feeling.. off. A deep sense of panic and intense feelings of doom.

What I was scared of is this : Im already on antidepressants (Citalopram and Amitriptyline) + some other meds (antihistamines for nausea) and MORPHINE (yes, Im that fkin dumb apparently)

I felt so out of it, so scared like any moments I could've just, died. My O2 stats were good though, so idk if it was just a self imposed trauma (as I had an OD in HOSPITAL for a surgery bc they gave me a fent pain pump continuous + push, Morphine IM, PO and my regular doses) or I was legit on the edge.

I got up before it felt like "too late and pass out" and grabbed one of my emergency boxes of Narcan (I have one in every rooms, also I don't live alone, Im with my husband but he didnt realise what was going on, even tho we were right side by side he was gaming and had his back towards me.) and Proceeded to self administer a dose (Im rescued trained but hard to do on yourself lmfao) and immediatly that impending doom went away, this intense whoozyness and feeling faded a bit, Did a second doses a few minutes later just for good mesures. But OUCH PAIN. Then proceeded to have the worst trip of my life lmfao (I did weed, shrooms and alcohol only ever in my life)

So I went to sleep. Woke up this morning with a brain fog (karma IG). So uh... Ay Im still alive!! Now Im just here wondering was it placebo effect (since during my high I could make myself feel things and make then dissapear asap If I put my mind into it) or if I actually did oD'd and saved my own ass with quick action. My husband doesn't know about this, and I refuse to tell him this ever happened, at least for now, because I can't make him suffer again the memories of an OD (He was there during my first OD at the hospital).

BTW, Im not under any pain contract atm (family doc takes care of this while waiting for the pain clinic to take me in) and have been on opioids, same dose for 2 years now without any issues or any incidents, and Have taken robitussin at normal doses in the past. I still feel real dumb though, and today I wake up with a sort of new found love for life.

Would I do it again? Not with the risk of ODs again.. but if there was no risks, fuck yeah, just at lower dose.

Why does DXM + SSRIs seem to be really dangerous, but psychedelics + SSRIs just blunts effects?

Iā€™m no expert so Iā€™m sure I wouldnā€™t really understand the full answer, but Iā€™ve been wondering about this. Obviously DXM isnā€™t a psychedelic and is quite different from psilocybin or LSD, but theyā€™re all serotonergic drugs, and that seems to be the big deal for DXM.

This also isnā€™t to say that psychedelics + SSRIā€™s is entirely safe, but anecdotal experiences online in combination with the few studies there are regarding this suggests the danger is quite minimal, and the real effect is just a lessening of the psychedelic experience.

So yeah. Anyone know why this is?

3 bottles of Delsym

Itā€™s been 5 hours i donr lnow what to tyoe but this is an update.

accidentally did 900mg first time

so yesterday was my first time doing dxm and my dumbass drank the whole fuckiny bottle itā€™s been 16 hours and i still feel somewhat disconnected from my body.

Holy shit

First trip high 2nd plat Itā€™s like I an Alien trying to act normal. I forgot how to lay down for a bit. Everything was slow motion

3 bottles of Delsym

Just took 3 bottles of Delsym, anyone have any suggestions or advice?

If anyone wants to talk while I come up you can comment on this post or pm me, also Iā€™m open to any music recommendations so please feel free to share!!

first time - got very sick

i was wondering if this will happen everytime? before hand i ate mcdonaldā€™s but that was around 2 hours before hand? i took it at around 9:30pm (3 capsules of robotablets so 90, based on my weight of 48 for first plat) and because i didnā€™t feel anything i took more at around 1:30 or 2am? 2 more capsules so my total is 150mg, it started to peak at around 3am all the way to 6:50? not sure but i kept waking up at 7,9-10-12 something like that and i found that i did a few things i dont remember doing especially something sort of out of character i woke up with randoms on snapchat? guess it makes sense, anyways i had a really bad headache and then stomach ache at the same time it was hard to get up, then i threw up which helped but still felt very shitty, i really enjoyed tripping but i donā€™t want this to happen - could it be because of the re dose? if i made it so that one i didnā€™t eat so much and that i took it a time that would make my peak at 2am and i am able to sleep ā€œsoberā€ a full maybe 8 hours? idk!! i dont plan to do it often not as often as id drink and stuff.

Bouta take 800mg freebase

Can u guys write some shit in the comments so i can talk to yall when im trippin šŸ˜…

Hi

Can someone talk to Me

First time yay

First time. Iā€™m going to low 2nd plat. Idk what else to say.

Just making sure

This is around 540 mgs?

1000mg have been consumed prepare thyself.

Lord help me Im boutta explore everything

Why arenā€™t psychedelics just called associatives

Cuz like dxm and ket are disassociatives, and shrooms and acid and 2cb are like the opposite. Whyā€™d we even come up with disassociatives why not just call them delics. Or just call psychedelics associatives. Idk

First time delsym

Just took around ~50 ml of delsym (shot glass almost to the top) How long is it gonna take to feel? Iā€™ve done high doses of lsd is this comparable? Should I eat with it? I saw ppl talking abt eating so they donā€™t fuck up their stomach

What kind of music do you listen to while tripping

I personally like tool

3 Bottles of Delsym

About to take 3 bottles of Delsym, anybody have tips or advice for me? I know the basics, you mightā€™ve seen my comments on this subreddit I try to be as active as possible.

Anyways I plan to take it at around 21:00PDT (in about 30 minutes), if anyone has suggestions please feel free to share them.

Thank you all!! :)

DXM Direct Shipping to NZ

Does DXM Direct ship to NZ? I dont wanna buy it and waste money if it's just not gonna come.

In yalls opinion

Hey just curious what do yall think is the most cost effective source of dxm that's sold in most if not all stores

4/20 going to be interesting

Gonna drink all three of these on 4/20 or maybe late late 4/19, my highest dose ever was 600mg and these combined is 900mg

3x 100ml Benylin Dry Cough (safe-ish for human consumption)

the vomit come up is so bad

i will never get over how standing over my toliet, salivating and spitting into my toliet as i grip my door frame with my left hand the edge of my toliet with my right. as im somehow profusely sweating but also freezing at the same time, feeling my digestive track pulsating, finally until i vomit. itā€™s not the vomiting that is so bad, but the god-awful nauseas come up. thc doesnā€™t even help with it that much anymore.

no longer throw up

this is weird because i have many conditions that cause me to throw up excessively. the first time i stopped throwing up on dxm was because i was binging it but i took it for the first time in two weeks and didnā€™t throw up, took it again a week later and wasnā€™t even nauseous. i only take 150mg because iā€™m 5ā€™7 and 45kg so maybe the low dose is why

cant stop

its been a while since i started taking dxm, and while ive seen improvements, im unable to go more than a few days without it. i feel miserable when sober. i cant work, i cant enjoy hobbies, i cant do anything other than doomscroll. the trips are enjoyable most of the time - but why couldnt i be more psychologically independent from them?

idk i guess i just. mourn the person i was before drugs. miss thinking that being uninhibited was good and that i would never be like the rest of my family. part of it is due to my dosing. on a typical trip I'll usually take a 2nd or 3rd plateau dose, with a single dose to add a pep in my step. i, admittedly, take a lot of it. does anyone else get into this weird cycle?

apologies about the negative post! a bit in my feels tonight. will post some art at some point from past trips šŸ™šŸ¼

might quit ngl

Iā€™m probs gonna just stop doing doses as much, I have work and college and I donā€™t think I can keep doing this towards myself.

Lmk what yall thoughts, cause itā€™s not like I wanna quit, I just wanna be able to do drugs like these but Iā€™m getting kinda sluggish.