Tldr; It's never the naloxone causing precipitated withdrawal, causing you to not get high on Subs, or causing the ceiling effect(blocker).

We've had quite an uptick in people posting about getting on Subutex from Suboxone to get a buzz or posts that the naloxone is blocking and causing precipitated withdrawal lately. I thought I'd do a little sticky post right quick.

Its always the buprenorphine in the case of Suboxone. Its the blocker, it's the one that causes precipitated withdrawal, it's the one that takes cravings and withdrawal away, it's the one causing a ceiling effect.

It doesn't stop people from shooting it, snorting it, or putting it up their butts. It's NEVER the Naloxone in the functionality of how buprenorphine works. The buprenorphine doses in conjunction with Naloxone are too much for the naloxone to do anything. The binding affinity for buprenorphine is much higher than the doses of Naloxone in Suboxone.

People can have sensitivity or allergies towards the Naloxone, but most side effects are because of the bupe. There's no reason for it to be in there in the first place. It was all for a new patent and to easing the people's in charge fear of people getting a buzz by telling them they'd go into agony if they misused it.

They'll go into agony anyway if they use either Subutex or Suboxone too soon after other opioids. But, it doesn't stop people from shooting, snorting, putting it in their eyeballs, or their buttholes..

I'm about to lose my health insurance coverage 5/1. My last appointment/refill is this week plus I've still got a full box & a half left from last month. More than enough to taper down, but I just figured I'd thug it out & go through it naturally to finally get it over with rather than prolong the inevitable withdrawal. I'm on day 7 of detoxing off suboxone today. I've been up all night not able to sleep. Whole body aches, head aches, constantly yawning with watering eyes & runny nose. Chilly sweats. Nasty poops. Barely any appetite. Bad mood swings- pissed with the world then laughing then crying. Combine all that with menopause symptoms too, you've got one seriously ill mannered woman. At this point Idk if I should keep going cold turkey or stop torturing myself & take some tiny pieces to finish getting through this & hopefully get some rest. On one hand I'm kinda relieved to get this over with since I've pretty much felt like I've been in a prison sentence with this script for many years now, but on the other hand I'm also scared to death this will only get worse before it gets better. So many people who've been through it already have told me that kicking subs is way worse than any pills, heroin or even methadone. To my understanding, the only thing worse than kicking subs is fentanyl. I haven't touched heroin since 2003 but years ago after my daughter died, my mom stuck her nose in my business & told my Dr she was concerned losing my child would push me over the age & cause me to use again, so her & my Dr came up with a "relapse prevention plan" that obviously included suboxone. If Id known then what I know now I would've never started taking it as I knew nothing about it at that time. Smh. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Is boofing a thing? If someone takes 3 films a day sublingually,, how many films would be needed for boofing? Do you have to enema first?

Ive been on and off suboxone since 2019 (never quit only relapsed) I take 3 to 4 strips a day(24 to 32mg) and Sunday I decided enough is enough. Starting Monday I started taking only 12mg and I felt okay. Tuesday I also took 12mg, wednesday I took 8mg and feel decent. Should I stay at 8mg for a week and go down again? I was feeling unmotivated so I wanted a change.

Hey folks, I’ll try to keep this brief as I would really love to hear some opinions on my situation. Basically, I’m considering if I should go back on subs after having been off them for about 1.75 years (two sublocade shots allowed me to get off them). I want to be clear that these issues are not related to withdrawal, I’m totally past that. Lately I’ve been ‘chipping’ with kratom and sub, like once a week or so, and I’m really considering going back on daily subs for the following reasons:

1. Motivation - I have no motivation most days to do the things I need to do in my life. When I was on subs I felt much more motivated and actually enjoyed getting things done.

2. Focus - This one ties into motivation but I’ve really struggled to focus on work and other tasks since being sober. I always felt much more ‘dialed in’ and could stay focused on a task for several hours as needed. Now, I struggle to maintain focus for more than 30-45mins at a time.

3. Libido - My libido off subs is through the roof and has become a source of frustration for me. All I think or care about 90% of the time is sex or jerking off. I think about it every day. My wife’s libido is, understandably, not on this level. When I was on subs our libidos were much more aligned.

4. Stress and Gut Issues - I’ve noticed I have become much more stressed off subs. I now have intense acid reflux that I have to take a prescription for twice a day. This only started when I get off subs. I grind my teeth at night now too and have to wear a mouthguard at night. Also, my bowels are very irregular, idk if this is due to the acid reflux medication. But before I got on subs, I suffered from IBS symptoms. While on subs, my only complaint was occasional constipation. No acid reflux, no irregular shits (constipated for days followed by days of very loose BMs).

Just looking for opinions, would it be worth going back on subs if it improves my quality of life so much? The only real reason I wanted off in the first place is the stigma and pressure from my wife (her family has addiction issues so it’s tough subject for her). Also, I like to travel and being dependent on subs always made me anxious if I were to lose/forget them while traveling

I’m a paramedic who got addicted to 7OH and kratom powder. After trying to quick for 2 months I had a mental break down yesterday and got on subs since I couldn’t take kratom anymore I just cannot. I have 4mg strips for a total of 14 of them. I took x2 yesterday and x1 this morning. I don’t want to be dependent on subs I’m terrified. I think I’ve ruined my life and really want to end it all. Please someone give me advice or support I’m so scared

13 days clean! After 4-5 years at 8 mg a day. I never thought I'd be here. I tapered for a year, and what a hell it has been (non-linear, just me fucking up and going too fast and not doing anything right). Currently in PAWS, everything is very emotional and raw, but it's worth every second.

This is a fantastic drug for people who need it, but when the time is up, it's up.

Just wanted to share. I love you all.

I need to get off 7-oh. It is too expensive and addictive. Going on leaf won't really do the trick when I have to work. I will have a few Subutex pills shortly. I don't want to maintain on buprenorphine, but am interested in using it to detox. If anyone has done this successfully, what was your dosing and taper protocol? Was there an issues with precipitated withdrawals? If need be I can go on kratom leaf for 12-24 hours, as most people do NOT seem to get precipitated WDs from going directly from leaf to buprenrophine. I am thinking of doing a quick, 7-day taper with the bupe, and then using gabapentin/lyrica for another week to cover up any residual withdrawal. Any advice would be appreciated. I know that I don't want to stay on bupe long term, as once you become dependent on it, it is a lot harder to detox from.

Like the title says, I’ve been on subs for 21 days and last night all the sudden I’ve got intense horrible chills and bad insomnia. I’ve even taken a couple more because I thought my tolerance maybe went up but it doesn’t help what so ever. Has anyone experienced this? I am prescribed this medication 24mg daily. I normally only take 18mg.

Need to get off fent and trying to decide to go with suboxone or kratom? Ive been on fent for aboit 6 months to a year a gram a day or less and I got some 8mg subs and a hefty supply of kratom so trying to get advice on whats the best way to go where I will still be able to function ie: go to work. Looking for serious advice because I cant take the rollercoaster anymore I want to be normal again :)

heeeeelp. i’ve been searching for this answer everywhere but im still not understanding. i’ve been on suboxone for 2 years now. mostly 2mg. they tried to push me up to 8mg and i could barely keep my eyes open while driving. anywho the clinic i went to sucks. they haven’t returned ANY calls for over a month. so ive decided that its time. i want off. i’m now on .25 2x daily. i cut 8mg strips into .25 (DONT ASK HOW IDK) when i am finally off of it, SAY i’m having a bad day and my cravings are too much. can i take a 1mg or 2mg strip? will i get sick? will i feel high? is there a chance of precip withdrawals??? like what happens if i take it randomly?

Has anyone had experience switching from Walgreens to CVS while using QuickMd? My script is $100 cheaper at CVS but I dont know if they'll give me any issues or if it's too late to transfer since my script is already ready at Walgreens, I just haven't picked it up yet. I reached out to QuickMd already, just waiting for a response and thought I'd see if anyone here thinks it's a bad idea to switch pharmacies. I don't want any trouble getting my meds.

I see people saying it helps with withdrawals can someone tell me what dosages they took of the gab? Ty

coworker gave me about 1mg, i’ve never taken it before. took it three hours ago and have thrown up about six times since. any advice on how to deal with the effects is appreciated

Had a rough night and took too much of my subs. Didn’t sleep much and woke up SUPER light headed and dizzy with hot flashes. Any helpful tips?

As the title says, I (28yo M) been on subs over 2 years now straight. Been on and off in between my very heavy fentanyl meth and crack runs since 2017. Although sometimes it glad I don’t remember some things, this is not something you just can control what I do and don’t chose to remember. I don’t and can’t for the life of me remember SO much shit be it from child hood, school, last year last week last 20 mins. Dude I don’t know what to do. There is no way I’d be 2 years clean I don’t believe without this medication. I take 1mg sometimes 3x a day. I also have to take IM testosterone injections and cabergoline to help balance out my hormones to a normal level bc the shit is so hard on them. I thought those medications would maybe help with some of my memory and forgetfulness. Nope. It’s like I’m perpetually just in the clouds. I’d love nothing more to not have to be on this medication which is also essentially a numbing kind of mood stabilizer too. But I don’t think I could be with out all substances and stay off the crazy ass other substances. Any feedback or suggestions appreciated. Thanks fam

I see the other posts about quick md here but didn’t see any specifically about ppl in nj. I see ppl in here from nj but they aren’t specifying what program they are on (which I fully understand) I was on Workit health nj for subs for like 4 years then they switched covered insurances and I didn’t wanna pay $75 a week I don’t take things as recommended I take them as needed so I ended up with abunch of extras and stop going to Workit health. Now I’m out of said extras and they want me to wait a week to see an evaluation dr. So I signed up for quick md since they can get me in faster. Has anyone in nj had issues with getting their script filled ?

Just feels like my heart is hitting heavier and then at other times it's a bit increased.

Aside from low energy and shit I dont have many withdrawal symptoms.

About day 2-5 I felt a bit bad on the dose but I feel relatively fine.

I have been taking a sliver of strip cut from the strip cut down the center longwise. Been doing that twice a day. I actually took a whole extra sliver today to see if it made the heart rate better but it hasn't changed it. Could this be due to it having to build up?

I don't know but it's very frustrating.

DISCLAIMER: YES, I USED CHATGPT. I WANTED THIS GUIDE TO BE AS INFORMATIVE, THOROUGH, AND AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE.

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Hey everyone — just wanted to share something that worked for me and might help someone else tapering off low-dose Suboxone. I recently got off Sub completely using a single 2 mg “bridge” dose after a long, intentional taper. Here’s exactly what I did — plus the emotional and psychological experience, because let’s be real, that’s half the battle.

🔹 My Suboxone Taper History

• Long-Term Use: I was on Suboxone for 4–5 years at 8 mg/day (4 mg twice daily)
• Taper Duration: Took a full year to taper from 8 mg/day down to 0.12 mg twice daily — and I want to emphasize how important it is to take your dose every 12 hours consistently at the start of your taper. Set a strict schedule and stick to it. If you take it randomly or "as needed," your body never fully stabilizes, and the taper becomes much harder physiologically and mentally.
  • That full year was not linear — I messed up a lot trying to rush things and experiment. But looking back, I know now that you could finish this process faster if you're disciplined and know what I know now.
• Next Step: Tapered off the PM dose and consolidated to 0.25 mg once daily
  • This was by far the hardest part of the entire process. Getting to one single morning dose changed everything. Until I made that switch, my sleep was constantly interrupted — multiple wakeups, never hitting true deep sleep — even though I wasn’t experiencing full-on nightly withdrawal like RLS or insomnia, which was the only reason for the PM dose.
  • Once-daily morning dosing gave my body a rhythm. If your brain is expecting a second dose later in the day, it will not let go. Jumping becomes nearly impossible in that state.
• Stabilization: Held at 0.25 mg daily for a little over a month — mentally preparing myself to let go

➡️ Key takeaway: Get to one single dose a day, in the morning. No matter how low your dose is, this is essential.

• Final Jump Strategy: Took a one-time 2 mg dose to soften the jump. It might sound counterintuitive, but hear me out — it worked extremely well.

🔹 Why the 2 mg “Bridge” Dose?

When you’re on a subclinical dose like 0.25 mg, your receptors are barely covered. You’re already halfway withdrawing every day. The 2 mg bridge dose floods those receptors one last time and gives your body something to taper itself off with naturally, thanks to buprenorphine’s long half-life.

The benefits:

• Physiological reset — smooths out the jagged drop-off from 0.25 mg
• Psychological peace — mentally, it helped knowing I had one final “step off” instead of a free fall
• Avoided dragging it out — no endless micro-tapering, no liquid nightmares, just a clean jump

🔹 Post-Jump Timeline (Physically + Emotionally)

Day 1–2:
I actually felt good. The 2 mg held me steady — almost like I forgot I even jumped. I kept my routine simple and supportive.

Day 3–5:
This was the most physically uncomfortable stretch — but even then, it was only at night. I had slight restlessness (though nowhere near the severity of full-blown RLS). It was incredibly manageable compared to real withdrawal. The long half-life of the 2 mg bridge dose after being stabilized on 0.25 mg for a long time definitely helped. I wasn’t too emotionally raw yet — no real crying spells — and while I would wake up hot, that would go away once I started my day.

Day 6–10:
Mentally challenging. The mornings were manageable, but the evenings hit hard. I’d get this mix of sadness, agitation, restlessness, and fatigue. Dopamine cravings were through the roof. Alcohol, weed, nicotine, whatever. What's funny, though, is I had no cravings for opioids or suboxone. I drank a couple of times during this phase, and it only made things worse. Wellbutrin + alcohol = mental chaos. I had to relearn how to sit with myself, sober.

Day 11 and beyond (PAWS kicks in):
This has been the most psychologically demanding part. I’ve felt emotionally raw — many times on the verge of tears, flooded with memories of regret and sadness. But the worst of it peaked in a single day, and I felt almost renewed afterward. I still expect waves and know I won’t feel much of a semblance of normalcy for another 2–4 weeks, but I’ve caught glimpses of joy. The music hits differently. It's actually amazing. I can't stop listening. I’m starting to feel the world in a new way. I’m healing.

🔹 Tools That Helped Me Cope

Supplements:

• DLPA + Methylated B-Complex – for dopamine and mood support
• Magnesium Glycinate (200–400 mg) – anxiety, restlessness, and sleep
• Omega-3s + Creatine – brain health 
• Melatonin (300 mcg extended release) – resetting circadian rhythm. Stay away from high doses.

Mental Shifts:

• This is a process, not a punishment.
• Sadness isn’t permanent.
• My brain is rebalancing. That’s a sign of healing, not brokenness.

🔹 Final Thoughts

This jump method — tapering to 0.25 mg, then using a one-time 2 mg bridge — worked. I’m here. I’m clean. I’m free. If you’re struggling at low doses, there’s a path forward, and it doesn’t have to drag on forever.

Let me know if you want help mapping out your own plan. You’re not alone.

I make this entry as something I can look back on one day and see how far I have come.

The title really says it all you guys. I poured my heart and soul out over a post a few months ago as I have become desperate in regaining myself and my life... I am just a grey.. dull... numb... emotionless.. soulless person with almost ZERO personality and I know the 16mg of Suboxone per day for the last 6 years or so has played a large roll in that. Ugh, NO MORE mid day crashing! Wont that be SO nice.

Well today I took a stand! Suboxone, This is a bitter sweet good bye.. LITERALLY bitter sweet.. (you taste like orange coated SHxT! GOOD BYE! LOL) I am thankful that you exist but I WILL NOT MISS YOU.

I am ready to take myself back. I am ready to hit the road and tread the waters ahead. I don't expect it to come easily or be freely given. I know I will have to fight to get myself back. Dark days ahead but brighter days beyond those. I hope everything goes and good as it possibly can and that I find only minimal depression and anxiety later on down the road. Whatever I may encounter, I am ready and I have such an amazing support system behind me and the most amazing partner I could ask for. I am feeling excited and optimistic about the future. Hopefully around this time NEXT YEAR I will be back to feeling like myself again. We shall see.

Quick question: Guys, how long after your LAST dose were you testing positive for Bupe? AND what doses did you get before jumping off? My plan is 300/300/100. Does that seem alright?

I am dreading the thought of going any lower than this, but it has to be done. I’m done being a slave to a medication. Like some sort of magic elixir, I eagerly wait for the time to come everyday like a kid waiting for play time. It’s debilitating. I’m over it.

Any tips/ recommendations would be appreciated.

I’ve been taking Suboxone 8 MGs films since 4/6 but have been having bad side effects. My cravings have gone away but honestly I feel so nauseous I can’t deal with it anymore. All day I feel dizzy and it’s starting to affect my work and haven’t had any motivation to workout. Will I have any withdrawals if I stop it CT if I’ve only been using it 10 days? I also would consider cutting my dose in half if that makes the nausea go away. Any advice will help thanks

Has anyone gotten the sublocade shot without being on 2 pills or strips a day beforehand? Currently taking 1/2 a strip (some days less) a day. Wanting to do the shot to detox a little easier but don’t want to go back up to 2 a day.

I started taking suboxone about 3 weeks ago. I was heavy oxy heavy on and off for a few years but about 3 weeks ago I kicked (for the umpteenth time) using kratom and my friend suggested subs to get off the kratom (stupid move cause I was barely taking any kratom), anyways fast forward 3 weeks and I’m taking anywhere from 4-8mg of this shit a day. I really don’t wanna go this route, I’ve heard too many horror stories and I now have a 2 week prescription of 2mg 3x daily from a clinic that doesn’t seem sincere at all. I also get prescribed Xanax and adderall from a different doctor (have been for years) and I’m scared to death he’ll cut me off if I keep up this sub script. For those of you who have more experience with suboxone, please please please help me with these questions. 1. I’ve taken 6mg today, if I was to stop right now, how long would it take for WD’s to set in? 2. Am I already deeply dependent to where I’d have weeks long withdrawals? 3. If I was to wait 2-3 days and take a tramadol (which I still have an old script of), would I feel it? My bottom line is I wanted to keep a few subs only for when I have bad cravings but I don’t want to get hooked on the stuff. I don’t want monthly prescriptions of it. And I’m extremely uneducated about it as a whole. Please, any and all advice helps. I really don’t wanna live the rest of my life on this stuff but I’m not going back to the oxy addict lifestyle under any circumstance. Please help. I know how to kick OxyContin and oxycodone but I don’t know how to safely kick this. In all honestly I’d rather just start from scratch kicking pain meds again. Any and all comments and answers are welcome whether mean or helpful. I just need advice. I’m 28 years old with 2 kids and I’m ready to be done with it all.

I’ve been on suboxone for 8 years & just started the sublocade shot 3 weeks ago. For the last 4 years I’ve had terrible anxiety to the point I can barely function. Antidepressants used to work great for my anxiety but 4 years ago they stopped working & I’ve tried like 30 different medications & nothing works for the anxiety anymore. Do you think it’s possible Suboxone stops antidepressants from working/causes anxiety?

So I am on 0.125mg daily and I feel no different taking the dose versus not taking the dose. I have skipped days in between doses before and did not feel any worse on the days I skipped other than increased anxiety. I get major anxiety to dose. I have a bad habit of taking out my mg scale, weighing out a dose, and dosing. I am addicted to the process. Sort of like how the process of lifting a cigarette to your mouth is more addictive than the nicotine itself…

Anyway, I was wondering if there is anything I can do to lose this habit. The only relief I get from dosing is the satisfaction and anxiety release. It doesn’t do anything for the yawning/teary eyes/night sweats. When I skipped days I felt no worse, some days I felt even euphoric when doing activities but the thought of pulling out my scale and dosing takes over my mind and I get the anxiety to take a small dose. I haven’t gone longer than 1 day skipped.

Side note: I have phenibut on the way to take for the anxiety. So instead of dosing suboxone when I get the anxiety, I will dose phenibut. But then I’d have to make sure I don’t get addicted to weighing out phenibut…

I'm really at the end of my rope. I'm not going to bore anyone with the difficulties of my life. The problem is I just can't deal with having the subs in my mouth anymore. It's not the taste. I don't know what it is really. I can only keep it in my mouth maybe 5 minutes. Then I start to feel like vomiting. And I have to spit it out. I mean I start gagging. I haven't had a full dose in I don't know how long. A long time. Right now nothing is going right. And I need the subs or I'm going to go insane. I've tried the pills and it's no better. What can anyone suggest? Because I seriously don't know what to do. It really just suddenly started. But it's been going on for almost a month. I don't know what happened.